The valuation of the US stock market has reached a dangerous level. By the end of 2025, the Shiller Price-to-Earnings Ratio (CAPE) of the S&P 500 surged to 40.74, the second-highest extreme in 150 years of US stock market history. What does this mean? On the eve of the Great Depression in 1929, it was only around 30 times, and now it is much higher—only the dot-com bubble in 2000 was crazier (peak at 44.19 times).
Compared to the historical average of 17 times, the current premium has reached 139%, meaning the market pricing has been inflated to an absurd level. This directly leads to the implied real yield being suppressed to 2.45%. More concerning is that this creates a typical "negative risk premium" phenomenon—investors are not getting reasonable risk compensation but are still bearing valuation risks at a historic level. From an allocation perspective, this imbalanced pricing structure has already put significant pressure on the attractiveness of benchmark assets.
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NoodlesOrTokens
· 6h ago
Here we go again? A repeat of the 2000 bubble.
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SchrodingerWallet
· 6h ago
40x P/E, isn't this just waiting for a crash?
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ForkLibertarian
· 6h ago
Here comes the rhetoric of harvesting the leeks again. We haven't exploded since 2000, but we're still alive.
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PanicSeller69
· 6h ago
More than 40 times? Are you still playing?
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It's going to crash again, as always, that's what you say every time.
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2.45% return... might as well just lie down and collect interest.
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The tech bubble wasn't this crazy; this time, something really is going to happen.
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I'm tired of hearing about negative risk premiums and such; I've been all in cash for a long time.
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A 139% premium... I just want to know who is still buying in.
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It wasn't this crazy before the 1929 Great Depression... I'm a bit scared.
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There's no risk compensation at all, why should I hold a position?
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Waiting for the day it crashes will be fun.
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This valuation is truly insane; what is the market thinking?
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CoconutWaterBoy
· 6h ago
Spreading alarmist talk again
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StakeWhisperer
· 7h ago
Let's put it this way, the 2000 bubble wasn't as crazy as now.
Over 40 times? Are we just speculating on air, buddy?
Risk premium has turned negative, is this still worth playing?
Even the big A-shares haven't been this crazy, the US stock market is really hyped up.
A yield of 2.45%, that's even worse than bonds, anyone who buys will lose out.
The valuation of the US stock market has reached a dangerous level. By the end of 2025, the Shiller Price-to-Earnings Ratio (CAPE) of the S&P 500 surged to 40.74, the second-highest extreme in 150 years of US stock market history. What does this mean? On the eve of the Great Depression in 1929, it was only around 30 times, and now it is much higher—only the dot-com bubble in 2000 was crazier (peak at 44.19 times).
Compared to the historical average of 17 times, the current premium has reached 139%, meaning the market pricing has been inflated to an absurd level. This directly leads to the implied real yield being suppressed to 2.45%. More concerning is that this creates a typical "negative risk premium" phenomenon—investors are not getting reasonable risk compensation but are still bearing valuation risks at a historic level. From an allocation perspective, this imbalanced pricing structure has already put significant pressure on the attractiveness of benchmark assets.